In the first movie I’m thinking of, I can remember a scene where a fight breaks out in a pencil factory and somebody gets stabbed through the neck with a pencil.

In the second thing I’m thinking of, I think it was a television show, I remember a scene that looked be from the perspective of a fly looking a group of people in a dark room with a checkerboard floor. It may have been a horror show for kids, but I’m not sure.